Message 4466 (1 left): Sat Jan 23 6:02pm From: Todor Zhivkov (cthulhu@ucscb) Subject: Re(4465): I'm not liked... > aww. The fact that you neither like me or my opinions pleases me no end. >I've discovered, through three and a half years of living in the politically >polluted atmosphere here, that the likes and dislikes of the politically >correct (yes, you, aaron) serve best as a negative indicator of what is >practical or desireable. Aaron politically correct? Right. Shall we conclude that the Carnivore is only able to define his own character and views in opposition to the flaws he sees in others? > You can't offend me, aaron, as I have never, nor will I ever respect the >arguments of someone who uses the tried-and-true >"proof-by-repetition-of-popular-phraseology". Does an endless regurgitation >of gray drivel concering "persons of color", the "military-industrial complex", >defended against refutation by scathing remarks like "That doesn't even justify >a response" prove anything except your obvious expertice at mental and moral >masturbation? Perhaps we should respect the endless repetition of phrases like "politically correct" and such brilliant arguments as >Message 4434 (31 left): Thu Jan 21 11:17pm >From: The Carnivore (crnivor@ucscb) >Subject: I would move to Australia > > > if either Jackson or Robertson were elected. They both suck. ^^^^ ^^^^ ^^^^ Oh, "they suck." Best reason I ever heard not to vote for them! >Message 4457 (8 left): Fri Jan 22 10:42pm >From: The Carnivore (crnivor@ucscb) >Subject: You just did... > > > asshole. Well, I'm sure demoralized and debunked Aaron went crawling into his politically correct hole after that one. > (Sorry -- "persons of color" should be "persons of Color"; the >captial "c" was micha's). Now, when I respond to your 'doesn't deserve a >response' remark on the same level you wrote at; Do you think that drivel on the order of this >Message 1804 (15 left): Fri Jan 22 11:28pm >From: An Evil Genius For A GLORIOUS Tomorrow (crnivor@ucscb) >Subject: Awww > > > You must be upset, web. You must get upset a lot reading here. I mean >several times a day. Do you gain weight when you get upset, spider??? > >Message 1806 (13 left): Sat Jan 23 12:21am >From: An Evil Genius For A GLORIOUS Tomorrow (crnivor@ucscb) >Subject: ^^ > > > I wasn't trying to shut you up; just trying to get a rise out of you. >You, of course launch on a tirade on "men do this, men do that" > > You have a couple more pounds coming. deserves a response? Tell me, are you proud of the garbage you write? >a level you have at last shown the ability to maintain some sort of >conversation at, you allow me the smug satisfaction of knowing that >I was right all along. You can cling to your smug satisfaction all you want; when anyone tries to tear it away from you, you hit them with cheap insults like the above. Why should they bother? Message 1163 (3 left): Tue March 8 7:38pm From: Brown Shirted Bcomm Fascist (cthulhu@ucscb) Subject: Leaving Carnivore Alone, etc. Carnivore doesn't want to be left alone. He loves all the attention he gets. He can't understand people like micha with radically different points of view, so he loves to get a rise out of them. He loves the fleeting feelings of persecution and martyrdom he gets from pushing the boundaries of dialogue and harassment to their most absurd limits, knowing that there will always be people who won't take it as a "joke." The little spat over the last week wasn't a free speech issue. (BTW, harassment guidelines say nothing about swastikas. "Fuck Off," is, however a personal attack.) Anyone has the undeniable right to print whatever garbage they want -- on their own hardware. When they show it to others, it is maliciously false and defamatory, a question of libel pops up. But the University has every right to control what is printed on their computers. As it is, those guidelines are very, very liberal. All that Bcomm was asking -- asking, not forcing -- Carnivore to apologize to micha and to be considerate in the future. It takes a lot of imagination to turn Bruce Larkin's "let's chat" request into "harassment," as Carnivore begs us to conclude. Carnivore finds Bcomm a nice punching bag, allright. Let him have his fun. Bcomm does not try to enforce political correctness or the honor code, for it has no power to do so. It asks users to just be considerate and control themselves, because if we don't, someone else will; witness the ritzbo case, and the other current harassment case that is up in the air. Carnivore, please just give micha et. al. the benefit of the doubt and keep your premature judgements about them to yourself if you can't express them with some civility. Micha, why are you letting someone like Carnivore get to you anyway? So much for polemics. And now, with apologies to Pat Oliphant and Michael Kaye, who I'm Bidenizing this from: Carnivore: From time to time, legitimate satirists, gadflies, and politically incorrect dissenters are forced into association with you when the right to free speech is challenged. As congradulations for your recent triumph against the Orwellian Lynch Mobs, I hope you will accept this characterization of you as purely satirical... |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ \ || / ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | \||/ | | / \ | | / \ | | / \ | | / \ | | /\ ~ ~ /\ | | <{ @ \ @ }> | | \ . _> . / -"Leftist Hypocrites! | | | . ##. | Politically Correct | | \ \____/. / Weenies! Totalitarian | | \ . : . / Scum! Tell ME to shut up? | | / \______/ \ HAH! I'll show YOU! How | | _____< / \ >____ many German Soldiers died | | / \___ ___/ \ in the invasion of Anzio??| | / <> I wuv <> \ HUH? That's NOT FUNNY!| | | Reagan n' | | Bush n' Haig |\/> | were Whermact officers!| |__________________|____|___<>_________<>_|____|__HEIL WILHELM!!! _| *** CARNIVORE *** For A GLORIOUS Tomorrow